During a recent television segment, Jon Snow, a Channel 4 News host, interviewed prominent and valued Washington Post journalist, Jonathan Capehart, about the Trump victory and what it means for him.
Snow asked: “You are a gay, black, Washington Post columnist, very respected… is this your America? Are you worried that it may become another America?”
Capehart said: “That is a very powerful question, Jon, and it moves me almost into silence. The election of President Obama was a great moment for this country, and now we stand two months away from…” At this point, he stopped talking, as his eyes filled with tears and he momentarily stepped away. He then continued: “…from all that disappearing. As an African-American, as an openly gay man, and as an American, this frightens me.”
As part of the conversation, Snow was simultaneously bringing Lena Epstein, into the conversation. Epstein was a Trump campaign co-chair. She responded by saying: “My heart goes out to you, and I want to assure you from my personal experience with Mr. Trump that he is a good man, he is a capable man, and he cares about all Americans, including you and your community. As someone who will be in his corner, going forward, I will be very careful to advocate and be sure that is the case. I can feel your pain, and I’m with you, and I know that a lot of people are scared.”
Capehart contended that when he met Trump years ago, he was incredibly gracious but is sad and scared about the side of Trump he has seen during this campaign.
“I have had occasion to meet Donald Trump, I’ve interviewed him, after the whole birther controversy. He was warm, he was charming, he was engaging. The man who ran for President over the last 15 months is not that man, and that is why I, and so many people, are afraid and praying for this nation.”
You can see the whole exchange below: